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This entry was posted on 11/15/2006 3:23 PM and is filed under uncategorized.
The following is my opinion: Greg Skinner recently won election to the Mound Council by 15 votes. Skinner is a long time employee of the City of Mound, as most voters know. At the latest council meeting a question was raised. That question was more or less, can he be both a city employee and a councilman at the same time? Apparently as a result of this recent meeting, the city will be pursuing an answer to that question. The Minnesota Attorney General's office has been mentioned as perhaps having the answer. I would welcome your comments that clarify the situation.
It is also my guess and opinion that Bob Brown who ran for re-election to the Mound Council will not be contesting his 15 vote loss for a spot on the council.
11/15/2006 8:36 PM
Ray Salazar wrote:
I was present at the Mound City Council meeting of November 14, 2006. I witnessed, several people, business owners citizens and city employees that live here all expressing their dismay with the proposal made by Mr. Osmek for an inquisition into the legality in the state statute of Mr. Skinner serving as City Councilman. As it was explained, this inquisition will be performed by the Minnesota Attorney General. Bruce Dodds as well as Jeff Anderson and other good citizens questioned the timing, as this should have been done prior to the election. I agree. Mr. Skinner filed for candidacy as we all did including myself. The inquisition should have been done immediately, not after the election. The city attorney was contacted on the 13th of September and the city attorney explained some conflict may exist. Nothing was done and/or requested until now. Whether or not you voted for Mr. Skinner, it is very disturbing and upsetting that this is happening now. This inquisition will not only cost the city money, but will embarrass both the city as well Mr. Skinner. Futhermore, Mr. Skinner spent his own money and time in his campaign and now, after the election the question arises? Mr. Skinner won the race fair and square like it or not. At this point the inquisition with the Attorney Generals office upon the legality of this within the Minnesota statute smarts of "Sour Grapes", "Do Overs", "juvenile 4th grade behavior". I shudder to think what surrounding cities such the city of Minnetonka thinks of this type of behavior going on here in Mound. Reply to this
11/16/2006 10:05 AM
David Osmek wrote:
Oh Ray, its better to park your emotions at the door and think for a minute about the issue. Or perhaps you were too busy listening to the well-organized lynch mob.
First, the “opinion” that was rendered on September 14th was a hastily prepared eMail by the City Attorney, where he states: “So, I think that this is an open question that should appropriately be submitted to the Attorney General for an opinion.” As you will remember from last Tuesday’s meeting, I mentioned that even requesting that opinion (which would have been rendered smack-dab in the middle of the campaign season) would have created doubt in the minds of the voters and unfairly influenced the election against Mr. Skinner. Knowing now that he won by a scant 15 votes, I don’t think there is much question that the publicity of a legal inquiry would have cost Mr. Skinner his victory. It is also much more fiscally responsible to ask for the opinion only if Skinner won, as losing would have made the point completely moot.
Did I ask for the AG’s opinion? Absolutely. Why? One of my primary responsibilities as an elected official is to ensure that the City operates legally and our liability for being drug into court is minimized to its fullest extent. Not only does an AG opinion create an insulation to possible legal challenges, it also clears all the questions regarding conflict-of-interest, incompatibility of office, and proper adherence to state statutes. Read the last sentence of State Statute 412.661 and tell me that we don’t need some legal ruling, knowing that Mr. Skinner has almost a dozen people reporting to him.
The point is I want Mr. Skinner to take office with all questions answered and all road blocks cleared. Its not “sour grapes”…after all…I won. It’s making sure the City and Mr. Skinner are protected, and the AG opinion does exactly that.
Ray, next time…don’t run with the crowd, but think on your own. Listen to what people say and do a little research on your own. And true leaders stand up in the face of a lynch mob to do the right thing, even if that’s unpopular. Reply to this
The addition of the agenda item for the AG opinion was requested, by eMail, by Kandis Hanson on Monday 11/13/06 at 5:24pm. It was not on the original agenda, not published in the Laker, not even on the City's website. Adding an agenda item requires (by Roberts Rules of Order) a unanimous vote.
If you remember, Mayor Meisel opened that item (added as item 7A) by saying: [But before we start, I KNOW there are citizens present that wish to speak on the subject.] Go watch the tape, Ray. Then the parade of the lynch mob commenced.
Ray, how did Mayor Pat Meisel "know" that there were people present to speak on this? Is her gavel actually a magic 8-ball or can she read minds?
And, just for the record, the Council voted 3-1 (Brown abstaining) to request the AG opinion. In the end, even Pat Meisel had to agree that protecting the City and Mr. Skinner from future challenges was the right thing to do. Reply to this
11/16/2006 11:54 AM
David Osmek wrote:
Also, Ray, considering the item was not published ANYWHERE, added by a request only 26 hours before...by an eMail which was only sent to the Council, Councilman-elect Skinner, and Mayor-elect Hanus...how could all these "good citizens" even have known about he agenda item? And Ray, when you look at the videotape, how could the third person to the podium have a prepared statement or notes to read from?
Incidentally, adding agenda items is rather routine and happens nearly every meeting. But when that happens, the meeting minutes reflect the information and the meetings are aired for the Public to see.
So I ask you, Ray...how did these people find out BEFORE the item was actually added to the agenda? It wasn't public knowledge until 7:35pm, when we approved the agenda. And how does somebody come up with prepared statements to read BEFORE the first public knowledge of the agenda item is even made? Reply to this
11/21/2006 6:45 AM
Jeff Andersen wrote:
First off Mr. Osmek let me offer my opinion on your latest blogs. You speak of "organized lynch mobs" Let me first respond to THAT. You seem to be confused as to what a lynch mob is .......... perhaps we can compare it to yours and others persistent hammering of a former Council Member who have to have his own ideas and opinions. Is it that he or others don't share your point of view then they become open targets for your wrath.
Having said that, it is also my opinion, from all that has been said in the community,
that the tactics of "Team Mound" are very questionable at best. Let's talk about your unstated, very organized agenda .............
#1 - Already in progress
#2 - Have Mayor-elect Hanus appoint you to be " Acting Mayor " ..... once he takes office .
#3 - Have Mayor - elect Hanus move you away from the " exit seat " and more to the middle of the Council table ........ for obvious reasons .
#4 - Yourself and Mayor-elect Hanus appoint your choice to fill the vacant seat ( if agenda #1 plays out in your favor ) .
#5 - Can only take place if #1 and #4 take place .
#6 - Establish a Council majority that are only there to self serve .... i.e. a 3-2 , get my meaning .
If anyone is well orchestrated Mr. Osmek it would be you and your pals.
It is my opinion Mr. Osmek that before you declare yourself a true community leader you must first educate yourself on the meaning of "Serving the Public", NOT be self serving as you have demonstrated .
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Lake Minnetonka Facts
Lake Minnetonka was formed by melting ice blocks in glacial moraines 15,000 years ago. The Lake is 929.4 feet above sea level at its outlet, Grays Bay dam. Its greatest length is 10.9 miles (Halsteds Bay to Grays Bay). 30 feet is its average depth. April 12 - 17 is the range of its average ice-out dates. - from the Hennepin County Library.
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Lake Minnetonka Cities
There are 14 cities on Lake Minnetonka. They are: Deephaven, Excelsior, Greenwood, Minnetonka, Minnetonka Beach, Minnetrista, Mound, Orono, Shorewood, Spring Park, Tonka Bay, Victoria, Wayzata, and Woodland.
Mound Minnesota's name
"Mound derived its name from the Indian mounds once found within the present day limits. They were not built by the Dakota Indians but were made by prehistoric Indians...." - Melvin Gimmestad, from the book, Historical Backgrounds of Mound, Minnesota.
Tonka Toys
Mound was known as the "Trucking Capital of the World." Tonka Toys was once located in the present day Balboa building near the intersection of Shoreline and Wilshire.
Lois Lane and Hercules
Lois Lane and Hercules both once lived in Mound. Noel Neill appeared in the TV show "Superman". Kevin Sorbo starred as Hercules in the TV show of the same name in the 1990s.
Saint Bonifacius
This city was named for its Catholic church. Saint Boniface was the Apostle of the Germans. Bonifacius in Latin means, of good fate or fortune.
City of Minnetrista
"The City of Minnetrista is located on the western bays of Lake Minnetonka and the agricultural rich plains and idyllic woodlands of southwestern Hennepin County.....The 32 square miles is home to 5,250 residents who enjoy the rural residential and lakeside settings." - from the City's web page.
Busy Corners
The corner of Lake and Central Avenues used to be the center of Mound. Lake Avenue is now called Bartlett Boulevard and Central changed to Commerce Boulevard. Kirby's Bait Shop is located on Busy Corners.
The Island
Island Park is also known as Phelps Island, and once was called North Shore Park. Phelps is the largest island on Lake Minnetonka, and some say it was originally a peninsula. There was a lot of dredging done in Lake Minnetonka's past. It lies East of Cook's Bay and West of Spring Park Bay. Island Park merged with Mound in 1960. It is still called "The Island".
Early Lake Minnetonka
In 1822 Joe Brown, a drummer boy at Fort Snelling and the Commandant's son Will Snelling discover Lake Minnetonka. The two 14 year old boys canoed up Minnehaha Creek and found its source. It appears that relations with the Dakota Sioux at the time required that the Lake remain off limits. It wasn't until the 1850s that its existence becomes general knowledge. In 1852 Simon Stevens and Calvin Tuttle built a dam and sawmill on Minnehaha Creek some distance East of Lake Minnetonka. The next year a hotel is built nearby. In 1854 the Cook House is built in Mound. The 1850s are the beginning of significant settlement around Lake Minnetonka.